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after all these frustrating & negative judgments, the normal result that we can anticipate is
no one can blame them
but really this failed of science is so magnificent 
wonderful thread
Thanks a lot engineer engmate28
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Thanks NOOR,
You might know that some engineering gurus are elites of
industrialization committees, held here and there, whom are
doing the best for Globalization-ELITES! Who kills our people
in Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan!
Hating these type of engineers, and making fun
of them too, does not necessarily mean
that all engineers are wrong